BD 256 Johnny Guitar

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BD 256 Johnny Guitar

#1 Post by ChunkyLover » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:01 pm

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SPECIAL FEATURES
Limited Edition Hardbound Slipcase [3000 copies]
1080p presentation on Blu-ray from a 4K restoration of the original film elements, framed in the film’s originally intended aspect ratio of 1.66:1
Brand new commentary by critic Geoff Andrew, author of The Films of Nicholas Ray: The Poet of Nightfall, newly recorded for this release
Brand new video piece by Tony Rayns
Brand new video essay by David Cairns
Brand new interview with Susan Ray
Archival introduction to Johnny Guitar by Martin Scorsese
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A LIMITED EDITION 60-page collector’s book featuring new essays on the making of Johnny Guitar and on female gunslingers in the western genre, both by western expert Howard Hughes; an essay by Jonathan Rosenbaum; and archival writing and ephemera [3000 copies]
All extras subject to Change

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Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar

#2 Post by black&huge » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:39 pm

I have to ask anyways but is this gonna be region locked?

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Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar

#3 Post by Drucker » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:54 pm

Almost certainly. There's an OLIVE release in Region A.

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#4 Post by Maltic » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:12 pm

Andrew did a commentary for the Olive one too, but there was room for improvement, as far as I can remember. Or maybe it's just that this movie never truly clicked for me (I like it and all, but...)

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#5 Post by OldBobbyPeru » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:05 pm

Does anyone know if this is using the same restoration as the Olive edition?

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#6 Post by L.A. » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:12 pm

Just managed to watch Godard’s La Chinoise and JG was actually mentioned. Great scene.

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#7 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:12 pm

L.A. wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:12 pm
Just managed to watch Godard’s La Chinoise and JG was actually mentioned. Great scene.
Godard references the film several of his works- Pierrot le fou being my favorite usage. I just revisited La chinoise as well (first with Quandt's strong commentary on the Arrow disc, then by itself), and this scene is particularly interesting because Godard seemed to have the most negative views on Henri's character out of the group of revolutionaries, diagnosing him as the static one, closing his peripheries to necessary political adaptation while the others morph (imperfectly, but at least they engage in challenging complacency as a core value); and yet Henri's wry observation in that clip seems to be a point of identification for Godard! But who knows what he actually felt then vs later, and the man was never above self-critique or moving the goalposts around the grey portrait of the world objectively, so I try to take any concrete position from an interview with a grain of salt, since it could've changed the next year/day.

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#8 Post by Calvin » Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:22 am

An MoC release of this has felt like an inevitability. I'm glad to see it's finally coming. It would have been nice to get João César Monteiro's Passeio com Johnny Guitar as an extra.
OldBobbyPeru wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:05 pm
Does anyone know if this is using the same restoration as the Olive edition?
I can't imagine there would have been another 4K restoration done, so the answer is almost certainly yes

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#9 Post by Jean-Luc Garbo » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:22 pm

"Brand new audio commentary by film scholar Adrian Martin" now listed as an extra!

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#10 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:28 pm

Cue the auto double dip meter

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#11 Post by Maltic » Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:39 am

If the film doesn't click for me now, it never will

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#12 Post by therewillbeblus » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:11 am

I similarly never understood the appeal of this one until roughly five years ago when it clicked and became an all-time favorite for a few viewings. I revisited it a year or so ago for the 50s project and found it lost some of its appeal again, but I still think it’s pretty great as a regurgitation of pure emotion. At the very least, Adrian Martin’s commentaries have the power to make me suddenly appreciate films I’ve seen many times and never enjoyed before (Preminger’s Fallen Angels being the most recent example)

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#13 Post by What A Disgrace » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:13 am

Geoff Andrew's commentary has been reduced to an introduction, as a trade off.

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#14 Post by Cash Flagg » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:04 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:28 pm
Cue the auto double dip meter
This will be a six-dip for me :(

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#15 Post by domino harvey » Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:53 pm

I think it'd be a fourth dip for me, which is too many. I'm sticking with my homemade double Olive Bu-ray pack, though I'm sure Martin's commentary will provide value for those who can't resist another bite of the apple

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#16 Post by colinr0380 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:22 am

This is an amazing western, constantly upending norms all over the place and doing so in such a vibrantly colourfully symbolistic way. It is such a big feeling film for something so intimately, emotionally scaled as well. Probably the biggest upended norm is Sterling Hayden as the title character of the film being bizarrely, but wonderfully, sidelined almost immediately after his first scene inside Vienna's casino. It is as if the film just naturally drifts away from the nice-but-dull lunk to stop and gaze in awe at Vienna instead, ruling imperiously as a self-made woman over her casino, and deigning to offer all these guys jobs working for her as her employees/lackeys. Even the 'romance' with Johnny Guitar is less shown through his eyes but rather more hers, being unable to prevent herself from showing interest in him yet needing to not compromise herself too much to keep the power dynamic working in her favour, like a western reincarnation of Cleopatra.

The main conflict doesn't come from men in particular (who know their place) but from the black clad Puritanical, masculine clothed (compared to white dressed, at least until she changes to match for the final duel, Vienna) figure of Emma played magnificently by Mercedes McCambridge. Her performance is an amazing mix of hyperbolic, hypocritical disgust, jealousy, shivering sexual obsession(?) and pure sadistic delight in destruction of Vienna, as if hating Vienna's use of her feminine wiles and sexuality (and pandering to gambling) in order to get her way, which are the aspects that Emma herself has suppressed to dominate her own band of employee-lackey men into doing her bidding.

In its final section after Emma destroys her saloon, Vienna disappointingly does fall into the 'needing to be saved by a man' mode for a time (the only section beyond the opening scene where Johnny Guitar really does anything important is in his spiriting of Vienna away from the conflagration), but then the film gets amazing again with the final duel scene where the men are again sidelined for the two women to stand off and finish their conflict between each other once and for all.

It is fascinating to consider how this would work in a double bill with There Will Be Blood! It is sort of about the same ideas of ideologically opposed hegemonies embodied in the main characters battling it out for control of the future direction that the new frontier will take.

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#17 Post by Maltic » Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:40 am

Ageing-female-star-centred Westerns were a thing.. Dietrich in Rancho Notorious and Stanwyck in Forty Guns, but I guess the characters still had to either die or get married in the end.

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