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colinr0380
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#8251 Post by colinr0380 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:55 am

dwk wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:58 am
Stuart Gordon
That's awful. A lot of focus will be on the notorious Lovecraft riffs of Re-Animator and the eye-popping From Beyond (the fearless Barbara Crampton headlining both! I might be in the minority that thinks that she steals the show from Jeffrey Combs!), but I also really want to put in a word for his excellent sci-fi prison film starring Christopher Lambert Fortress from 1992 (which really came to mind when watching the disappointing Brawl In Cell Block 99 recently). It has a great Kurtwood Smith bad guy role after his Paul Verhoeven ones, and of course Jeffrey Combs has to be in the supporting cast as well! And the 'intestinator' explosive device that all the prisoners get implanted with is this film's equivalent of the Running Man or Wedlock-style explosive collar, just much more internalised! (The film could also be argued to be kind of the male-focused version of The Handmaid's Tale!)

And his mid 2000s more 'grounded' films Edmond from 2005 starring William H. Macy and based on a story by David Mamet, and the 'based on a (horrific) true story torn from the tabloids' Stuck from 2007 (both of which star Mena Suvari) are absolutely fantastic.

Oh, and he also wrote the story of Honey, I Shrunk The Kids!

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#8252 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:12 am

He's collaborated with so many bands, like R.E.M. post-Bill Berry and Nine Inch Nails, but his best work may be on Ministry's most enduring albums.

Also Jenny Polanco, acclaimed Dominican fashion designer, from COVID-19.

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#8253 Post by knives » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:30 am

dwk wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:58 am
Stuart Gordon
That got an audible no from me. I really loved where his career was going recently with King of the Ants and Stuck showing an evolution in his style suggesting late Cronenberg type possibilities if he could just get a job off the ground. Even Edmund, easily his worst films and one of the worst I've seen, suggests so many possibilities of where he could have gone. That last kiss almost redeems the film.

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#8254 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:45 pm


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#8255 Post by ando » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:39 am

Ribs wrote:
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Terrence McNally
The PBS American Masters episode on McNally is streaming on local affiliates until April 1.
Channel 13 streamer.

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#8256 Post by Close The Door, Raymond » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:49 am

Italian actress Lucia Bosè was 89

Some reports state it was COVID-19 related.

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#8257 Post by swo17 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:52 am

Close The Door, Raymond wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:49 am
Italian actress Lucia Bosè was 89

Some reports state it was COVID-19 related.
It was, and she has her own thread

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#8259 Post by Close The Door, Raymond » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:31 pm

Cinematographer Alfio Contini was 92
"Zabriskie Point", "The Night Porter", "Il sorpasso", "Beyond the Clouds" and "The Trojan Woman"

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#8260 Post by MichaelB » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:12 am

Krzysztof Penderecki, one of the great avant-garde composers of the 20th century, who wrote original film scores (The Saragossa Manuscript), but whose most indelible mark on cinema is arguably via various concert scores repurposed for The Exorcist, The Shining, Katyń and Shutter Island.

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#8261 Post by Wilo » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:08 pm

In addition to the films MichaelB mentions above, I think one of the most effective uses of Penderecki's music has to be that episode of Twin Peaks: The Return where Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima kicks in as a mushroom cloud starts to erupt. I was already familiar with the piece when the episode aired but now find it impossible to listen to it without thinking of that scene.

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#8262 Post by ianthemovie » Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:46 pm

Wilo wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:08 pm
In addition to the films MichaelB mentions above, I think one of the most effective uses of Penderecki's music has to be that episode of Twin Peaks: The Return where Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima kicks in as a mushroom cloud starts to erupt. I was already familiar with the piece when the episode aired but now find it impossible to listen to it without thinking of that scene.
Yes. I believe Lynch used some of his music in Inland Empire, too. Some of the most terrifying sounds ever created.

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#8263 Post by brundlefly » Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:59 pm

Fans of Ken Russell's The Devils may also enjoy Penderecki's opera (NSFW - if anyone's at W, anymore) based on the same source material.

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#8265 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:51 pm

Grammy-winning jazz trumpeter Wallace Roney from COVID-19. He studied under Clark Terry and Dizzy Gillespie before touring with Tony Williams and Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers. He was the only trumpet player Miles Davis personally mentored. He had been scheduled to play at Brown University two weeks ago before the event was cancelled due to the pandemic.

He was 59.

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#8266 Post by Aunt Peg » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:36 pm

Actor Matthew Faber best known for his role as Dawn Weiner's brother in Welcome to the Dollhouse
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#8268 Post by Dr Amicus » Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:03 am

Eddie Large, from Coronavirus. I guess largely unknown outside the UK, but a major fixture on British TV in the 70s and 80s as one half of the comedy duo Little and Large. Certainly, they were a favourite in my house when I was growing up. Unusually for tv comedians of the time they never tried to transfer their act to the cinema.

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#8269 Post by Rayon Vert » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:02 am

A pedantic point perhaps, but one I personally feel has merit. Media sources, and members here, say "X died from coronavirus". Actually the precise source of death is often unstated, or it's heart problems or pneumonia or something else brought upon or exacerbated by the virus. The distinction is potentially important just in the sense that it tends to spread more, perhaps unhelpful fear about the virus. If someone has the same health problems and it's the regular flu that does them in, media sources won't be saying "X killed by the flu".

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#8270 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:11 am

Thanks RV, good point. "Health complications exacerbated by COVID" would be more accurate and less alarming, even if still ominous without concrete info.

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#8271 Post by Brian C » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:23 am

I agree that’s a good point. An extreme example of this was last week here in Illinois, where it was reported that an infant who had “tested positive for coronavirus” died. I thought that phrasing was far too vague to be worth even reporting, but of course it was greeted with a lot of alarm. After all, the one thing we haven’t had to worry much about with this virus has been small children getting seriously ill.

That said, I understand it’s a fine line. Information is almost never perfect, and deaths need to be reported. I don’t really have a solution, but I agree that it’s worth keeping in mind that information is incomplete if not outright misleading at times.

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#8272 Post by DarkImbecile » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:32 am

I see your point, RV, in that we can say very little with definitive certainty about the effects of a virus we’ve only known existed for a handful months. This works the other way as well, in that mortality rates in Spain and Italy point to many people (perhaps 2-3x official mortality figures) dying at home or under care for non-COVID-19 or unidentified ailments that aren’t included in official death tolls. It’s also true that almost no one actually dies directly from HIV infection, but due to other infections and causes brought on by the collapse of their immune systems, and yet we usually fundamentally attribute their deaths to their HIV status.

In the absence of other evidence, probably safe to note someone’s COVID-19 status when acknowledging their passing with an understanding that there remains uncertainty.

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#8273 Post by colinr0380 » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:35 am

Dr Amicus wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:03 am
Eddie Large, from Coronavirus. I guess largely unknown outside the UK, but a major fixture on British TV in the 70s and 80s as one half of the comedy duo Little and Large. Certainly, they were a favourite in my house when I was growing up. Unusually for tv comedians of the time they never tried to transfer their act to the cinema.
Yes, that was the time when I used to pay attention to Saturday evening light entertainment on the BBC. It was usually Jim'll Fix It (whatever happened to him?) followed by Little and Large and usually Blankety Blank and Hi-de-Hi!

There were a lot of male double acts around in the 1980s, probably in the wake of Morecambe & Wise as attempts were made to try and impossibly recapture some of the magic. I like to think of Little & Large as the mid-point primetime family audience tag team, with the Chuckle Brothers aimed at the kids audience and Hale & Pace as the 'dirty joke late night alternative comedy' pairing!
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#8274 Post by brundlefly » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:47 am

ZE Records' bone-dry wink-nudge new wave chanteuse Cristina, whose work with Don Was, August Darnell/Kid Creole, and John Cale for her husband's label resulted in stuff like toxic Christmas carols and this deliciously DGAF version of "Is That All There Is?" Possibly of complications related to the latest thing.

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