Essential Art House: 50 Years of Janus Films
- HerrSchreck
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Hmm... it's been 5 years since I saw the film and I remember being disappointed. It is hard to go in-depth, since I currently have no desire to watch the film again - and none of the supporters of the film have given me any reason or argument for why I should do so, either. Not sure what 40s and 50s French cinema has to do with this, btw.
Personally, I cannot help but view this in light of the Red Desert thread in which Mr. Hare was proved categorically wrong by myself, after having accused me of all sorts of bizarre agendas. Fine - "block out" my posts and continue to believe that you're always right.
Personally, I cannot help but view this in light of the Red Desert thread in which Mr. Hare was proved categorically wrong by myself, after having accused me of all sorts of bizarre agendas. Fine - "block out" my posts and continue to believe that you're always right.
- Andre Jurieu
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I'm confused. So what exactly is the "Andre option" now?davidhare wrote:I should of course choose the very wise Andre option and simply block out people like Nothing, or simply choose not to acknowledge their posts ... Perhaps you could offer instruction on this "third path" to handle stupid posts, perhaps the "gently admonishing" form? Or maybe the "studied weariness" pose. No these dont really work for me. I prefer the Andre option.
I'll be honest. I was kind of puzzled by your response to Nothing as well. I'm not exactly sure what "fair Frenchie pervert movies" or A Prairie Home Companion have to do with Nothing's overly reductive dismissal of Le Jour se lève, or why he has to prove he's an expert in Gabin, Carne, and/or France of the 40s and 50s in order to state his opinion of the film. We aren't requiring everyone who has a positive opinion on Grand Illusion to state their academic qualifications regarding their knowledge of WWI, Renoir, and Erich von Stroheim. Unlike a_film_by, where everyone is comparing their credentials instead of discussing films, we usually just let that kind of posturing go. Could you at least expand upon your own position, because I'm kind of intrigued as to what a A Prairie Home Companion has to do with this situation and where the whole "fair Frenchie pervert" categorization came from?
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- Andre Jurieu
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Don't you mean, "dcuk?"toiletduck! wrote:It would appear to be stirring up shit just as it starts to settle. Good God, man, duck!
Yeah, this might not be the best course of action on my part (yet another addition to my long list of ill-advised actions), but I'm kind of interested as to the Altman connection and the "fair Frenchie perverts" thing.
- Mr Sausage
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Oh that's nonsense. I called it "off the cuff" because it wasn't even the focus of his post, it was a mere side comment. Since I clearly endorse the reprimand he received from Matt, Toiletduck, ect., I fail to see how I could also be "tacitly endorsing" reductive and generalized comments by saying you were over harsh in your response. Perhaps you're not a fan of dealing with issues according to their context and as the individual event requires. I, on the other hand, am, and will criticize over-reactions as much as I will silly generalizations.davidhare wrote:You're tacitly endorsing this, by virtue of your light dismissal of Nothing's post as "off the cuff", when in fact the forum has - obviously unenforecable - guidleines about blanket statements including the need to argue your point.
And you're right, the forum does have guidelines about blanket statements (unenforced as it is). But it also has rules about rudeness and insults--both of which are themselves poor substitutes for argument.
Don't you mean the JaimeChristely option?davidhare wrote:I prefer the Andre option.
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my memory of Monsieur Lange is sketchier than my memory of Le Jour se Leve, so I'll have to sit that one out for the time being fwiw, in perhaps somewhat unadventurous fashion, La Regle du Jeu and Partie de campagne are the Renoirs I find myself returning to time and again.
humhum, which of you is JaimeChristely?
humhum, which of you is JaimeChristely?
- Gregory
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His name is spelled Christley, just for the record, and he was banished a couple of years ago. He was hotheaded but was also probably the only banned member in the forum's history whose comments about film were often worth taking seriously. The others haven't been at all a loss, if memory serves.Nothing wrote:humhum, which of you is JaimeChristely?
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- arsonfilms
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Just to um... get back on topic, how many people invested in 50 Years, and of those who did, is it worth investing in the book alone? The whole box isn't worthwhile for me because I have a lot of the titles and I'm a bit of an extras hound, but I'm pretty seriously considering the book by itself. Thing is though, even in college I never would have spent $65 on a book, and I was hoping more people would weigh in. How extensive is the information/lavish are the photos? Is it something you'd find yourself going back to repeatedly?
- hammock
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I did buy it just to see what it was all about and my intension was to re-sell it with a loss. Problem is I can't let go of it now even though I already own all the movies (except unreleased ones of course) and all 3 Janus Films catalogues that could make it up for the book to some extend. I'm attracted to pretty things (the ones who know my wife can vouch for that) but there is no way this book can be justified if you already own most of the movies - just buy the book. As an investment I would think you will loose money, but then again, I did see people buying a sealed Salo with stickers for $1,000 so why not buy a lovely book with 50 excellent movies for $600? The reason why no one posted anything about the content of the book so far might be that no one got to read it yet. In case someone did read it - reviews please!arsonfilms wrote:Just to um... get back on topic, how many people invested in 50 Years, and of those who did, is it worth investing in the book alone? The whole box isn't worthwhile for me because I have a lot of the titles and I'm a bit of an extras hound, but I'm pretty seriously considering the book by itself. Thing is though, even in college I never would have spent $65 on a book, and I was hoping more people would weigh in. How extensive is the information/lavish are the photos? Is it something you'd find yourself going back to repeatedly?
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- Mr Sausage
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Hell, most anthologies for English survey courses cost around sixty - eighty dollars. No Mifune there, either.tryavna wrote:Did you never take a biology or chemistry course? I remember my bio textbook costing around $75 or so, and that was over 10 years ago.arsonfilms wrote:Thing is though, even in college I never would have spent $65 on a book
- arsonfilms
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In college I went out of my way to buy everything used, if I bought it at all. There was certainly required reading that would have cost me in excess of $100, but I always made due with an earlier edition that cost me $10. Worked my way through and graduated Summa Cum Laude entirely debt free. I couldn't have done that paying full price.Mr_sausage wrote:Hell, most anthologies for English survey courses cost around sixty - eighty dollars. No Mifune there, either.tryavna wrote:Did you never take a biology or chemistry course? I remember my bio textbook costing around $75 or so, and that was over 10 years ago.arsonfilms wrote:Thing is though, even in college I never would have spent $65 on a book
I suppose what I'm interested in the most is whether 50 Years has reference value, or if's the sort of thing you flip through casually while sitting by the coffee table, waiting for guests to arrive. The decriptions from the website and forum members makes it sound wonderful, but a more in-depth review of the content would be of great use to me, if anyone has the time.
- hammock
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OK guys - no more complaining. Deep Discount DVD is having a 20% off campaign that works with this box set making it $475.91 shipped. Here is the information you need and I personally checked it with the code SUPERSALE a minute ago and it worked...
Any one of them should work from 10 - 18 November for a 20% discount.
DVDTALK
USATODAY
NYTIMES
SUPERSALE
DDDCD
DD1110
DVDPRICESEARCH
LATIMES
ESPN
YAHOO
JIM
WGN
XM
and here is a screendump of how the design of all the menus look:
Any one of them should work from 10 - 18 November for a 20% discount.
DVDTALK
USATODAY
NYTIMES
SUPERSALE
DDDCD
DD1110
DVDPRICESEARCH
LATIMES
ESPN
YAHOO
JIM
WGN
XM
and here is a screendump of how the design of all the menus look:
- HerrSchreck
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ANyone else find it slightly amusing they palmed these old transfers off for a big ol price, spiffed up with a nifty book-- and then immediately superceded some of those unrealeased film's transfers with twinkling new releases on CC (PANDORA, FIRES...)?
Now we know why they don't announce their schedule very far in advance.
Now we know why they don't announce their schedule very far in advance.
- Matt
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According to Michael Carver on DVDTalk, the box is now "out of print." I assume this just means that now that Xmas is over, it will only be available through the Janus online store. At least until next Xmas. At that price, it's not exactly the kind of thing retailers want sitting on a shelf waiting to be bought.
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- kinjitsu
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Le Jour se lève
DVD Beaver review of Le Jour se lève(from the Essential Art House)
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- kinjitsu
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1.) CERTAINTIES: [Titles that has been officially indicated under way for DVD issue by Criterion]sherlockjr wrote:So when can we expect this?
LE JOUR SE LÈVE (Marcel Carné, 1939, France) - Although technically released through Criterion's store as part of the "Essential Arthouse: 50 Years of Janus Film" box/book set, this is yet to receive a spine number.